I have 30 of these Jerry cans and I numbered each one. I also have a clip board with the number of each Jerry can, with the date they was filled. I use Pri-G gas stabilizer in all my stuff. I’ve had gas that’s been 2 years old. I just pour it into my car. If I pour in 2 cans I make sure I fill the rest of the tank with new gas. Never had a problem.
No need for fuel stabilizer for 2yr ethanol-free gas stored in closed / gasket'd metal container. I can attest to it; three years is a walk in the park, even in the SE USA w all the water vapor in the air here.
I have found that our non ethanol premium unleaded fuel in Australia lasts for at least 2 years with Stabil added. Air tight containers in a cool dark concrete garage.
I have run Sta-Bil for over ten years. I haven't had to rebuild and clean any carburetors on my equipment. great stuff. I put it in my cans every time I fill them whether I am storing long term of current mowing season. it keeps your tanks and carbs clean.
SAFETY TIP... Never Ever Ever fill your gas cans, or pour from them, while they are sitting on a truck bed liner or bumper. The static electricity created between the gas can and a plastic liner and/or the gas pump nozzle, can create a spark and ignite the gasoline vapors. Numerous videos of this happening. Boom! Always set the gas cans directly on the ground. (Good and informative video)
If you have space and inclination. Take old fridge or freezer partially bury it laying down. Will hold 30 -50 gallons in 5 gallon cans. Protected from sudden temp changes & keeps fuel protected and out of sight. Punch hole in bottom to drain condensation/rain, add pad lock.
Goverment & insurance companies like to fuck up everything they can think of. Don't know how I grew up healthy & safe without their meddling in my life.
so for a 70 year old woman learning this now.. your video is well paced. easy to listen to. and take notes. your comparative visuals. so good. thank you.
For years I've used NATO cans for long term gas storage. Mostly dated from 60s and 70s. That shake weight siphon is new to me. Just goes to prove you can learn something new every day. I have access to ethanol free gas but add Stabil and rotate mine evevry 18 months. Used some just two days ago after tornado outbreak in Wisconsin.
Great tips for long term gasoline storage. Essentially: 1)Ethanol-free gas and 2)a quality, metal gas can. However, if I were to focus on long-term, emergency "fuel", I really have just one word: Propane. It never goes bad.
Seems like there are quite a few benefits beyond the fuel longevity, too. It burns much cleaner, so your backyard isn't filling with smelly exhaust (not a big deal, but its a plus worth mentioning). Storing propane isn't smelly, or fraught with worry over forgetting about it and coming back to a can of varnish some years later. Propane is also a fuel that probably isn't going to be as hotly contested during an emergency. Folks will fight each other at the gas pump to fill up their cars or fill up gas cans, but there doesn't seem to be as bad of a rush on Propane during those times (not to say there isn't, but its not fist-fights-at-the-pump levels of bad). On top of that, probably the best part, it won't turn to varnish in the generator, either! no need to worry about a clogged up, filthy carburetor. It's a prime fuel for a generator that may see only occasional use.
@@silver965 Absolutely! I have a natural gas generator at home (Gulf coast area), primarily because we typically never see any issue with our natural gas supply during times like hurricanes, etc. But the same goes for propane... if I didn't have natural gas, I'd have a large propane tank. It significantly reduces the worry of having a fuel supply that may not be good, or a generator that's varnished up from old gas.
@Montana West Photography Studio I agree with that. But I still advise that it does make sense to store the right fuels for certain items, especially for things like generators.
Propane can severely affect your engine. I just found this out in hurricane Ida. I got a batch with too much ethyl mercaptans in it and it damn near shut me down for good. I have a video out on it but look it up in the RVing forums. I will have a hard time trusting propane for emergencies.
@Montana West Photography Studio I certainly know that, my problem is you will never know you have a batch that can total shut you down until it's too late. I have a few videos showing this and it almost cost us dearly during Hurricane Ida. I will still store both, but using the small 20lb bottles is risky. In researching the issue, higher volume tanks don't seem to have a problem near as much. Look up oil in propane and you will see it can shut everything down. It will ruin regulators. Rv'er forums and BBQ pit forums discuss this problem. In my situation, running a generator after a natural disaster, this could have been catastrophic.
As an FYI, in October 2024, I just used gas I stored with Sta-Bil in March of 2020 (Covid). This was normal unleaded (Chevron) with ethanol. No problems in my Honda engine lawn mower (which is very susceptible to bad gas) or in my Subaru after I tested it in the mower. The Trufuel I stored at the same time also was no problem. Sta-Bil is really good stuff.
Hi! Any idea whether ethanol fuel with Stabil added can still separate out the water if allowed to sit long enough, or does the additive keeps the water from separating from the fuel? I got couple containers of 5 gallon gas that's about 3 years old, with Stabil added during the original fill up. I'd like to separate out the water from it and use it in a lawn mower.
I’m cleaning out an old metal WW-2 gas can 5 gallon off a jeep ,75 yrs old made in USA ,going to store fuel for winter 2023 for generators an car along with other fuel containers,you have to prepare for what ever comes your way nowadays!!!!!!
I have two 5 gal cans. When my car hits 1/2 tank i use one then refill it instead of the car. Next 1/2 tank use the other one. 12 gal tank in the car. This way the car is full and the gas in the cans stays fresh.
I suggest you consider using Pri-G for gasoline storage and Pri-D for diesel storage. Pri-G in my gas cans allows me to store gas for 1 to 2 years without problems. Following Helene, I found a 5-gallon military gas can in the corner of my garage I had forgotten about that had been there for 3 years with non-ethanol gas stabilized with Pri-G. I hesitated in using it however was desperate. As I poured it into the generator and saw no issues with the gas at all. It was perfectly colored with no evidence of gumming or other problems. The generator ran without issue and continued to run for several more days until our power was restored. Of course all of the subsequent gas used in the generator also had Pri-G in it. I should state, with Stabil, I had some issues in the past with gumming. Since then, I’ve used Pri-G and Pri-D and have had no more storage problems. Just my personal experiences I thought I would share.
My brother and I took a couple 5 gal cans to my cabin in 1995. It was untreated. It was still good until just a few years ago. It's still not stale, but requires a bit more energy to get the mower fired up. As long as you don't open and close it all the time, it will stay good for a LONG time. I bought a kit online that will fix 6 cans for $30. It has everything you need for both threads, as well as new vent caps. These new cans aren't vented, so you'll need to drill a hole and cap it to work.
I used to buy gas tanks from auto salvage yards and resell them. Drove 1400 miles a week just for delivering, so I tried to salvage fuel from the tanks whenever possible. Some of it had sat for a LONG time. I learned a pretty simple test to see i it was potent enough to run in my truck. If it was too far gone, Id get valve chatter. Take a small bit of the questionable gas, pour it in a plastic cup, just enough to cover the bottom. Dip a long stick in the fuel and light the stick on fire. Away from the gas can, obviously. Touch the lit stick to the top of the cup. The vapors should give a nice healthy poof. If you have to just about put the stick in the cup to get it ignited, its roached. You can use pretty weak fuel mixed with high octane to be able to use it in a pinch.
I was getting coffee at a fire-house when they informed me that test was underway on a dilapidated bus that I had bought which was within view at the time • Your test is correct • Smidgen of the fuel in discard able and see if it lights though that is 5 Decades old vehicle not what they are shipping today
Take the fuel and add rubbing alcohol to it at a 10% ratio. Then add it to stable gas. Keep gasoline in metal containers and keep them full. No room for condensation. Diesel doesn't separate like gas, but if it gets water in it, it screws up your filters
@@user-bd5md5cm2j Isn’t Rubbing alcohol partially water. She said alcohol added to fuel helps to bring it back to life but you’re also adding some water to it also with the alcohol I think that not gonna be good
@@user-bd5md5cm2j You should really research and learn before you make "do this, do that" videos. Yes there IS water in alcohol. there are different water to alcohol ratios you can buy but oh yeah it is in there. DUH!
I am 77 years old. Stored gasoline for decades and I have kept up with the regulations on fuel cans and fuel composition. 1. this old video is informative. 2. your gasoline will go bad. Whereas the formulation of gasoline has changed, you can cut the time in half, if you want to be on the safeside. 3. I used to keep notes. Now I don't. Definitely, I rotate at the cold winter football season time. I go at sunrise when the smokers are still sleeping and when nobody gets gas because they are going to stuff themselves watching a football game. I pull out the gas cans and put them outside at home, keep filling the car until the stored gasoline is used up, making sure the cans are clean and refill them asap and back into covered storage outoors. I then try to do it in the middle of the year. I fill the tank with the stored gasoline before a major trip and refill after the long trip. I can't do it exactly, but there is max of 30 potential gallons circulated. 4. I gave up on the concept of having enough gasoline and shifted long term energy storage to propane.
On the plastic jugs I drilled a hole and pushed in a yellow breather by the handle so when I tip up the can my thumb flicks it open and it drained in a about a minute buy 10 on line for a few bucks and they snap closed, when not in use cheep fix and no more gurgling and I cut the spring down so it would be easier to push the nozzle in but still sealed when not in use. Good luck gents!
I started using rubber valve stems for the vent. I just drill the hole at the top of the can near the back. I drop a cord with a lead split shot sinker into the hole. Shake it out the bung. Remove the valve core put the string through the stem thread end first re crimp sit shot to pull valvestem up through hole. Grab with pliers and pull it into place. Use a metal valve stem cap on it for transport and storage. Been doing it for years and have never had a leak.
Good video. I have used NATO cans for 20 years and cut foam rectangles (yoga/camping or car floor mat) and tape them to the can bottoms to stop damage to the paintwork when moving the cans about. That stops rust problems.
I watched this video a while back before I started storing gas. I bought a few of these metal cans and stored them outside the house but didn't figure in that that side of the house would have more sun later in the summer. I went over seas and came back to all of them bloated and out of shape. No leaks and the gas was still good after six months. Lesson learned. Keep out of the sun like the guy said. Great video.
Don't need fuel stabilizer. All you need is a COMPLETELY full can completely sealed off from air. It will last 2 or 3 years as long as there is no air in the can.
I agree. My 1.75 liters (about half of gallon) inside a vodka bottle, with an old style wood cork (kept with steel wire to don't pop up from neck) are doing just fine.
Great and well reasoned information on gas storage. I might also add, oxidation is really the only issue with aging fuel, so in my experience not Stabilizer is not needed if your Gas can is if fact air tight, limiting oxidation. I personally have 300 gallons in storage at any one time, and I start to rotate it out at one year, with no performance issues. Worthy of note: ethanol can be extracted from gasoline using water forcing phase separation removing all ethanol into the water. After that siphon off the fuel. This process has revealed that there is only about 3% ethanol in pump gas, not 10%. As a maximum stated on the pump sticker. Thought I’d share my experiences. Be well everyone Oxidation
How long are you giving the fuel to separate? If only an hour or so, your percentage reading is wrong. I've tested this using graduated laboratory containers and found that it takes days to separate the ethanol from the gasoline and it's always 10%........or more. After siphoning, what do you do with the ethanol?
Ok, what I used to measure ethanol removal is a suitable container and mark the before and after fluid levels. Further I use an appropriate amount of water with the gasoline, and vigorously agitate the mixture in a sealed container, and force the ethanol’s exposure to the water for complete absorption. I might repeat a few times until there is no more additional volume added to the water/ ethanol mixture level, after settling into a clear defined separation. This process should only take an hour or so. I did not find waiting longer added anymore absorption, nor would I expect it. I’m sure the ethanol percentage varies wildly, depending on the regional availability of ethanol. The pump gas decal reads a {maximum of 10%} there is no minimum standard, so any percentage is possible. I got about 3+% I just dump the separated water and ethanol mix out on the ground, I don’t actually drink it 🥃 🫠 Anyway that’s my experience. I hope that is what you were looking for.
I watch a lot of RUclips old vintage car rescue shows. They work on them to try to get them running after they've been sitting for 10 or even 20 years. What surprised me is that many of these old cars still had gasoline in the tank. The biggest surprise is, in many cases, that old gas would still run the engine! This tells me if you store gasoline and use a gasoline stabilizer, it should still be good usable gas for at least 10 years or longer. That's my thoughts on it!
My Honda 4000 watt generator runs fine and never used stabilizer and it is 1983 . Just add gas when it get"s low . Never ran the gas out . The gas tank has a very hefty cap and no oxygen gets in . Always ran 93 octane .Starting to use stabilizer in my stored gas . Some one added stabil to very old gas that was no good and the stabilizer brought it back to life . Does any one know if that is possible ?
@@stevesmith756 Tested 89 and 93 for mileage and performance . Vehicle gained 1.5 miles per gallon and the vehicle had noticeably better performance, also little or no ethanol that are bad for my small engines ( lawn mower , snow blower , generator ) . Store backup gas for power out and 93 was good after 14 months with no added stabilizer . Use stabil in my stored gas now and container says good for 2 years . Still try to rotate before 1 year . Do not listen to the claims that you are wasting your money on 93 octane , tested that to be false for me . Need to do your own test to see if it works for you .
Thanks for all the links and info. Very to the point and practical. Due to all the issues (and they way worse here in CA), I am converting my generators to run on propane as it lasts forever.
I store 15-20 gallons of treated gas in the shed with the mowers, tiller, etc. I treat the gas with Stabil the day I purchase it and tag the can with the date purchased & treated. I rotate through the stock, using the oldest first. I did have some "help" one year and the gas cans got out of sequence. Found myself using 2-year-old gas (treated, stored in a 90% full and tightly capped can) in the mowers and backpack blower Everything started and ran fine so a sealed container (reduced oxygen exposure) and Stabil can preserve gas at least 2 years. Prep usage of stored gas is for a 1600 watt inverter generator, the backup to my small solar system. which is adequate for about 20 hours running fridge, internet, etc (drops to 8 hours when running the central heat). Without commercial power or enough sun, the inverter gen would use about 1 gallon/day to charge the battery bank to have power for 24 hours (gen time + battery time). The solar system is primarily for short power outages ("Wait until daylight" so I'm not out in the dark in a thunderstorm or shoveling 7" of snow at 30F to get a gen started). Dropping back to a "cabin in the woods" level of power makes it viable for the long term, running a small fridge (4.4 cu ft counter height), some LED lighting over the kitchen counter, charging handie-talkies and cell phones (if that service is up). At this level, the inverter gen might use 1/2 gallon/day on the days there isn't adequate sun - it's all in the multi-page spreadsheet I created to do "What if", including the maximum and peak loads of various appliances and cells that turn red when the capacity of the batteries or the 2000 watt inverter are exceeded. Yes, it's possible to discharge the 420 amp hour battery bank in just a couple of hours but we will NOT be using the "1100 watt" .microwave oven which actually draws more than the 1700 watts on its label or the garage door opener (1200+ watts starting, 430 watts running) or the laser printer (495 watts printing) and so forth. Solar power is ideal for some things, such as the lighting in the equipment shed. The $175 I spent to put together a "set and forget" solar-charged LED lighting system there was cheaper than tunneling under a concrete driveway to run AC power out there to have lights for 20 minutes a few times a week. The switch for those lights is a 60 minute windup timer so the lights can't be left on. A typical quick twist of the timer's knob gives about 20 minutes of light - more than adequate for getting things out of or back into the shed.
As a fuels-refinery Scientist, I can detect few faults with your presentation. Ethanol blended fuel is absolutely perfect to store long-term, if you have sealed containers. Additives are a con, unless one is in Aerospace. I chanced upon this video thinking that I could tear it apart. But most of it is accurate advice. Fuel degrades for several reasons: 1) Gaseous vapour escape. Butane is a major component of petroleum, and can escape through the tiniest of interstices. 2) Chemical reactions caused by heat. 3) Gravimetrical separation. 4) Reaction with trapped H2O.
That's a surprise. What about fuel stabilizer, is that useful? And is an ordinary plastic fuel can "sealed," as long as the cap(s) are in place? Any additional comments you'd want to make would be welcome. What is your opinion on the political attacks on fossil fuels?
@@SeattlePioneer 1) Some fuel stabilizers *can* be useful in cases where correct storage is not possible, such as extreme heat. These cases are rare, and generally industrial, not domestic. 2) Plastic fuel containers are sub-optimal, in that they allow some UV radiation to pass to the fuel, contaminate the fuel with polymers, don't conduct static electricity, are easily punctured. But if the cap is tight on an intact seal, they don't vent under normal use. 3) Fossil fuels are a finite energy source and will be exhausted. Politics is not my area of expertise.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray There are enormous amounts of fossil fuels around the world. Enormous. The issue is not running out of fossil fuel ---- the issue is turning it off. An act of human beings, not nature.
@@SeattlePioneer It is a statement of fact. You dismiss this fact by the expedient of suggesting that the inevitable exhaustion will not occur until some time into the future. This position is neither rational, nor does it preclude planning for that eventual exhaustion. I am beginning to grasp the reason that you hide behind a fake name. Please use a real name in any future response, if you expect a civil adult reply from me.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray We have been "running out" of fossil fuels for 200 years now and in the United States we have coal available for 600 years or so at current rates of consumption. The ambition of environmentalists is to strangle the use of fossil fuels by human beings within a very few years, FAR before exhaustion is an issue. I consider the idea that we are "running out" of fossil fuels to be ludicrous as a practical matter. The real issue is that environmentalists want to TURN OFF access to fossil fuels, and do that almost immediately. As a practical matter, we have been "running out" of fossil fuels since they first began to be used, as you suggest. But we have been discovering new supplies of fossil fuels even faster than they are being used.
100% able to store gas in true Gerry cans easily for 7 plus years using twice the dose of Sta-Bil. I label my Gerry cans with a red grease pencil on what the date was that I filled them. I have 37 of them and rotate the fuel. I keep the fuel obviously for emergencies but also use it for my mowers, chain saws, weed eaters, blowers and tiller. I just opened up and filled my zero turn and tiller on Thursday (5-14-21) using one dated November 2014. Everything runs perfectly. Now I probably wouldn’t try to fill a sports car with 7 year old gasoline. But you’re not going to be driving a Porsche when the shit hits either.
I put 4oz of Sta-bil into the Gerry can. Then I fill the can. The fuel mixes it when you fill it. If I fill the can then put Sta-Bil in I shake it a few times. This only works (long term) when the can absolutely does not vent. True Metal Gerry cans don’t vent.
**My $2 (adjusted for inflation):* I have never had good performance from "sta-bil" brade fuel stabilizer... What I have found and personally used in gasoline to keep it good for multiple years is PRI-G (also use PRI-D for diesel). If you add it by the appropriate listed amount (or a bit more) at least once a year, it keeps gas in great quality and condition. It also boosts the octane levels as well. The older the gas gets... you may want to add a bit extra PRI-G each year to the gas to compensate for its age. However, I also Never purchase "regular" gas which is *at least* 10% ethanol. This is doubly true for gas that is going to be stored for any length of time. I personally make sure to purchase premium gas at stations which point blank list that their premium contains **NO Ethanol.** As ethanol not only causes gas to go bad MUCH faster, it also helps to destroy small engine carbs and causes a list of other issues. EDIT: HA! Got ahead of him! He brought up the Non-Ethanol. Great Job!
Don't know how long you are wanting to store your gasoline, but I've had regular gas with ethanol stored in Wavian jerry cans and treated with PRI-G for at least 2 years. I used up every bit of that gas last year when I decided it was probably time to cycle through the fuel and replace it with fresh. Ran perfectly fine with no noticeable difference in performance or economy in my Honda Civic. That gas was at least 2 years old. I have some stored similarly in a 10L jerry can for my lawnmower & weedeater gas. The remainder of that fuel is over 3 years old and my mower started with one pull and ran fine using that fuel this spring. So, at least with PRI-G treated fuel stored in sealed NATO cans you can use regular gas containing ethanol and not have to worry if you cycle through it every few years. One of the biggest worries with ethanol gas is how readily it attracts water from the vapor in the air. That is why having cans with a real seal makes a big difference.
@@ChiDraconis that's true, like my grandfather always said, its just "script". But still need it to buy what we are able while we can. at least until they implement the mark and also crash the markets/dollar.
@@jonniemactyler7929 that's also true about ethanol attracting water. The biggest problem I've had with ethanol fuel, is in weed eaters, chainsaws and a small honda generator. I've had to clean carbs on all of them multiple times, and even had to replace a carb on a chainsaw and I think a weed eater too, when I was using ethanol gas. Once I switched to non-ethanol fuel, haven't had another problem since. The ethanol just varnishes up the carbs really bad and really quickly. Especially when talking about how small the jets are in chainsaw and trimmer carbs. Just my experience. On a mower or larger engine, I like to run the carb empty if its going to be sitting for a while. But their larger carbs can handle a bit more than what the smaller engines can, so ethanol probably would be "as bad" as it is on the smaller engines.
I keep five gas cans full and store them in a row and simply take from one end and add to the other as I use fuel. In my case, it usually doesn't get more than a year old. As an added level of protection, I add about an ounce of 2-cycle oil to the mix, (5-6 gallon can) along with Stabil. A friend who works in the 2-cycle oil industry told me this is one of the best methods of extending gasoline life and doesn't hurt the engine one bit.
I have the Scepter cans. I always fill to the top and add stabilizer before storing. I usually cycle the gas regularly but I recently discovered one I missed. The gas inside is 4 years old. I opened it and it smelled just fine. Filled up my lawn mower and it fired on the first pull. I probably won't use it in my vehicle, but if it was an emergency I wouldn't hesitate, especially if I was adding it to a partial tank of fresh gas.
The Jerry Can. In WW2 the Brits moved thousands of gallons of gasoline in 5 gal honey cans. The same thin steel that soup cans are made from. They dented, leaked and had a one inch diameter screw top. The Germans used a robust style container, hence the name.
that was a great video. true jerry cans are expensive; sometimes you do have to bite the bullet and spend to save. it is a long term fuel issue described very well. hate those new gas holders nozzels.
Label all of your stored gas: date / additive / ethanol / non-ethanol / octane ; this is just an index card with a ziptie on it. rotate your stock every one to three years. gas in metal will keep a long long time, you will find that out.
Those are some really excellent tips but I want to tell you a little story and I don't mean a lie. I put a 5-gallon can up under my house and forgot about it for 3 years I didn't use any stabil in it or any kind of stabilizer. One day I decided to look under this particular part of the house and lo and behold there was that 5 gallons of gas so I went ahead and used it and it was good there was nothing wrong with it I guess I was lucky but I promise you it was three years before I used it
I believe you. I've used gas out of cans that I know was over 2 years old, and it worked fine. I think keeping the can in a dark, dry area is what helps it stay fresh enough to use for a long long time. Now, I am speaking of non ethanol gas. Ethanol will not last a year, let alone three.
I’ve got 16 real NATO gas cans I keep on rotation I bought some years ago. They are almost impossible to find now and if you do they are insanely expensive. Great video!
I bought a shrink wrapped bundle of "safety cans" . They had the 15lb thumb spring on the nozzle and one grab handle at the very top. No freaking way to tilt 5 gallons of gas up and hold in place while it glugs out. Started with a dremel and cut off all the little flaps that keep you from un screwing the nozzle. Drilled a small hole in the handle at the top back of each can and screwed a short, fat, gnarly wood screw to plug the hole when not in use. Finally, on one nozzle only, I pushed down the thumb button and ran a big screw beside the button to jam it in place. This is my pouring spout. All the nozzles have a screw on yellow cap.
FINALLY, a video about gas storage that has correct info! So much bad info out there... Gas storage is 100% about a fully sealed container that doesn’t leak/vent. That solves all safety and long term storage issues with integrity of the fuel.
I'd like a source for that, please. Octane is a rating, not an additive that can leech out. What does leech out is the gas itself, or rather it evaporates out, through the plastic itself, not just through a poor seal at the cap. You'll notice the level of your gas decrease over months. If you paint a plastic gas can the paint will gradually bubble and rub off as the gas fumes migrate out through micropores in the plastic, removing the paint. Metal is the way to go.
So these Jericans won't vent vapor? I live in an apartment with a garage (no shed), so basically I would need to store it in the garage which is obviously not safe if vapor gets out.
What about for Diesel? I don't think that will evaporate out. I have a yellow plastic nato shaped can i use for my machine... thinking that is best for diesel (but not gas) The fuel tank on the machine is plastic itself, so that must be preferred ~
Bonus tip: Durning "good times" I rotate my gas out every two months. Pour it into your vehicle. That way ya always have that extra life during SHTF. Always fill cans with highest octane.
@no candy so do i need to put fuel stablizer in Rec fuel or ethanol free fuel from local gas station? i asked this questin the other day and noone knew the answer
I have these NATO cans too. The only downfalls are that the rubber gaskets wear out over time and that nozzle tip falls apart. Replace it with a flexible nozzle, it's made out of metal.
I saw 10x packs of NATO jerry can gaskets on * recently when looking for spout. I suspect gasoline wears down the gaskets quicker or is it because of mechanical pressure? They lock tight.
Great video! I am using plastic cans, Eagle I believe, and storing them in my shed. When I transport them in the trunk of my car, I always bungie them together to keep them from falling over. The first thing I did with the cans was convert them to "old style" by adding vent caps and nozzles that actually work. I'll check into the steel cans, but cost may be an issue for me. Thanks again for the great infof!
During this low price gas days , I am using the fuel in my cans to top up then refilling with CHEVRON PREMIUM . It has no ethanol in it, allowing a longer shelf life. As the price for it is less than what i was paying for reg 2 weeks ago, I dont mind. Bonus as it also rotates the stocks on hand.
Important for storage: 1. If you can get ethanol free gas, get it! It's more costly but it won't self-destruct. 2. Rotate your stock. 3. Ethanol Shield is a lot better than Stab-il
To avoid the air suction problem, I drilled a small hole in the handle of my red plastic gas can at the high point when pouring out the gas. I use a golf tee to plug the hole when in storage. Works Safley for me.
Buy a universal electric gas pump. Add a long wires with alligator clips (to a 12 V battery) , a switch and about 6 to 8 ft of fuel line. Zip tie the pump to you gas can handle. Now you don’t need to pour the fuel out of your gas can. you pump it.
You can also connect to the pos/ neg cables on a jump box too. That way you don't need a real long run of wire. Just make sure you connect to the side of the clamp that is connected to the wire. I do this to drain out my bird baths when I need to clean them. And fill my riding mower. I just bought a cheap 12 volt automotive fuel pump from e-bay and some 3/8 fuel line. Works great.
Best way to minimize condensation is to eliminate as much air space in the tank as possible. Aviators have tried to keep tanks full for this reason, when aircraft sit around. Constant temp helps too, but if fully sealed, moisture can only be derived from the air space left in the tank. Cheers
A friend of mine left the country for two years so I put a whole bottle of Sta-Bil in the tank of his truck. When he got home we jumped the battery and it ran great.
Having been a USFS fire prevention technician and fire fighter it is fun to read all the expert statements from the self-appointed safety specialist . Did you know that, no I wouldn't tell that☆! someone heard will try it and start a fire ! Whiskey is another extremely flammable liquid that infact can catch fire by exposing the vapors to a ignition source.
Try filling a tractor with a 5 gallon can and one of those “safety valve” nozzles. Hint: filler cap is at chest height and how the f^k are you supposed to hold the can up while holding the nozzle open? I spilled more diesel the first time with new can than ever with old flexible spout.
Excellent video, I have several of the cheap red plastic 5 gal cans. I am going to change them out. It'll a little expensive, but I never mind paying extra as long as I get what I'm paying for. I subscribed and hit the like button.
I’ve been storing gasoline in those NATO style cans for years. I’ve had it in storage for up to four years or longer with no detriment. It runs fine in my automobiles in my lawn equipment.
Store 4 x 20 liter jerry cans fuel. Prices increase, use fuel from cans. Prices drop, refill. Prices increase/decrease by up 50 cents per liter every few days. 🇦🇺
Sea Foam doesn't have a great reputation for clearly marketing realistic expectations to the customer. I wouldn't want to use any Sea Foam product without being very well advised of its true capabilities, relative to how it is being marketed.
Go to a small airport and stop at a Fixed Base Operator (FBO) and buy Avgas is 100LL. It will last more than a year in storage with no treatment, and is wonderful for small engines like your generator. I used it to winterize all my small engines, by simply running my lawn mower, etc. on Avgas for the last time before storage, because the 100LL will not deteriorate the carburetor diaphragms or clog the jets, and lasts for the whole off season of non use. Spring startups are simple!
It’s now November 2021 and those “ez-pour” replacement nozzles have been taken of Tractor Supply store shelves…replaced by a similar-looking “safety” nozzle,…which sucks again. What do you call 500 lawyers and accountants at the bottom of the ocean?
FYI I use cheap rubber chair leg cap sliders at walmart or the dollar store to cap my gas cans. I use them on my gas cans and diesel cans and they work very well to seal my cans
Dead on, it works and I use them on my plastic cans. This guy just wants to tout the ridiculously xpensive jerry cans. (probably getting paid to promote them)
I have 200 liters of fuel storage. I have four Sceptre plastic cans and 6 others. Generally a similar design. I use fuel stabilizer and tag each can of the date, price and location to wear I purchased the fuel. I also include the liters (amount) that pump indicates. Depending on the temperature of the air and ground, the fuel may contract or expand. When you fill the can, don't watch the pump for the amount of fuel pumped. Watch the fill line on the can. The pump may read 20 liters but you may have as little as 16 liters. The pump is designed to compensate for this variance, however , I find it inaccurate. Fuel pumps should have decal on it explaining this temperature variance. So, I mark the liters that I purchased at the pump. I generally will leave the fuel stored untouched. The oldest fuel I had was 2 years. What I have stated doing is rotating one can out whenever I need to fill. As I usually will have no less than a half tank of fuel in the vehicle, I empty one can into the vehicle. I then go fill the can and the vehicle at the same time. I mark the can and put it back into storage. This keeps a fairly fresh fuel supply at anyone time, and doesn't really ad the extra costs of but a large amount of fuel at one time. If you choose to use this method, remember to put stabilizer in the can immediately after you pour the van into your vehicle. All of my fuel card are vented as we have big temperature swings here. I wouldn't suggest storing any fuel in a vehicle long term or indoors. Here is question. What is the difference between regular fuel stabilizer and marine fuel stabilizer? I also notice a descrepency between the same product in Canada vs USA. Same product but one indicates a much longer storage period. I have some Briggs and Stratton stabilizer that indicates 3 years.
@@SeattlePioneer Not So.I contacted the mfg that stated their very dark almost black looking marine grade stabil is a different more robust formula (vs std red color stabil) that’s specifically designed to better handle the extreme heat temp swings & high moisture storage conditions many boats see that std formulation red stabil fuel stabilizer cant handle as well. That’s why I always use sta-bil marine grade stabilizer in their old rec of 1oz marine grade stabil for every 5gals fuel vs their current rec of 1oz per 10gals that in my experience is at best an in season maint dose rec that’s not as good /strong enough for long term Storrage esp with 20% ethanol on the fuel. I live in upstate ny & have had no fuel related issues for the 20+ yrs doing the above in the mult classic motorcycles,cars & small engine power equipment I have. Happy Motoring.
I got some genuine NATO Wavian gas cans a few years ago and they all came with the Kalifornia CARB compliant nozzle. A real pain in the ass trying to fill small power equipment having to manually push back the spring loaded lock out nozzle so gas can flow!!! The siphon tube is a great idea to fill vehicles from a gas can!!!
@@ChatGPT1111 Concrete garage twenty foot distant with concussion reducing barrier between it and where you sleep; Test the intervening distance with large propane torch; Insure all idiot-clowns are busy sniffing whatever it is they do somewhere else; You tan't seen do-do until you see an LNG Vehicle explosion *{ **ruclips.net/video/vu1E8MlCHLM/видео.html** }* Familiar with use of EMS arterial clamp?
I had a Wavian 5 gallon mounted in the back of my truck bed under cover. Used some fuel from it and did not refill it full. After winter (interior Alaska) this spring the can leaked about 2/3 up from the bottom from a small hole. Because of the temperature difference from summer to winter the expansion and contraction cracked the metal and leaked. Range of temperature was about -45F to 85F. I replaced it and will now keep it filled.
Ethanol free gas. There's websites that list stations that sell it. If you live in a state where it isn't sold(for example, New Jersey), Marine gasoline is frequently ethanol free. Another option is race gas, but the cost and extremely high octane make it a less than ideal choice.
Those cheap ass plastic cans are "approved" by the government for gas storage but heavy duty racing dump cans that don't leak or spill when you use them aren't. So glad the government is working so diligently "keeping us safe."
Where I live, it is illegal to have more than one gallon of gasoline on your property. They didn't really think this out, because it would mean that you have to park your car in the street. Still, a few 20L jerry cans of gas wouldn't last you very long anyway. Relying on gas to survive any kind of long-term situation is futile.
I have plenty of time with CT; Eager to take questions; Simplified we do not bother with that we just find what we can as those are pay-for-lies @ a rate approaching rates you would not believe me if I told you *• Crime Pays •* An internally controlled cartel which keeps tight → Do not even think of penetrating them !!!!
I have 30 of these Jerry cans and I numbered each one. I also have a clip board with the number of each Jerry can, with the date they was filled. I use Pri-G gas stabilizer in all my stuff. I’ve had gas that’s been 2 years old. I just pour it into my car. If I pour in 2 cans I make sure I fill the rest of the tank with new gas. Never had a problem.
Your car is a great way to 'dispose' of that old gas.
Is 2 years your go-to shelf life before rotating out? Or do you typically like to rotate earlier?
No need for fuel stabilizer for 2yr ethanol-free gas stored in closed / gasket'd metal container. I can attest to it; three years is a walk in the park, even in the SE USA w all the water vapor in the air here.
@@brucev6642 that’s where I usually rotate the gas into.
@@RussC123 I usually rotate every year.
I have found that our non ethanol premium unleaded fuel in Australia lasts for at least 2 years with Stabil added. Air tight containers in a cool dark concrete garage.
I live in California, so I envy you that.
I also use metal Wavian cans
I have run Sta-Bil for over ten years. I haven't had to rebuild and clean any carburetors on my equipment. great stuff. I put it in my cans every time I fill them whether I am storing long term of current mowing season. it keeps your tanks and carbs clean.
Absolutely. Never had a problem.
Was told it will rejuvenate old gas . Person added stabilizer to old gas and was good to use . Wonder if that is true ?
Same.
SAFETY TIP... Never Ever Ever fill your gas cans, or pour from them, while they are sitting on a truck bed liner or bumper.
The static electricity created between the gas can and a plastic liner and/or the gas pump nozzle, can create a spark and ignite the gasoline vapors.
Numerous videos of this happening. Boom! Always set the gas cans directly on the ground. (Good and informative video)
Excellent comment and do not place the Cans directly on any surface (i.e. concrete, etc.). Make use of a pallet or similar storage configuration.
Use diesel engine is better
Yeah for people who don't know how to use a freaking gas can
@@melraven7105 well, now you're not one of them.
@Dale Hemme tell it to the people who use the cell phone while fueling their car
If you have space and inclination. Take old fridge or freezer partially bury it laying down. Will hold 30 -50 gallons in 5 gallon cans. Protected from sudden temp changes & keeps fuel protected and out of sight. Punch hole in bottom to drain condensation/rain, add pad lock.
I like it !!
THAT is a good idea!
What about freon from fridge
@Ron ron padlock
@Ron ron so are gas gas cans with gas in them!
I’ve spilt more gas from those stupid safety gas can nozzles then the old school gas cans. The old ones were so much safer.
Great video and info!!
Goverment & insurance companies like to fuck up everything they can think of.
Don't know how I grew up healthy & safe without their meddling in my life.
@@monroekunz2070 Don't forget lawyers.
@@s0nnyburnett Beware ye lawyers & judges of the world
Sounds like a you problem probably a boomer with shaky hands
@Mark P. You left out the lobbyist that pays off the politicians that make it Required by law.
so for a 70 year old woman learning this now..
your video is well paced. easy to listen to. and take notes. your comparative visuals. so good. thank you.
Great tips young man I am storing fuel for my generator and you really gave me some good tips. Thanks again from and old vet.
Thanks for your service!
Thanks for your service sir.
on veterans day and always.. thank you for your service!.God bless!
For years I've used NATO cans for long term gas storage. Mostly dated from 60s and 70s. That shake weight siphon is new to me. Just goes to prove you can learn something new every day. I have access to ethanol free gas but add Stabil and rotate mine evevry 18 months. Used some just two days ago after tornado outbreak in Wisconsin.
no issues with 18 month old gas? do you use it in your vehicle after 18 months? Trying to figure out my rotation rutin
@@michalp2362 I've had no problem with carefully stored gas 2-3 yrs old. Stabl in nearly full containers in insulated boxes.
Great tips for long term gasoline storage. Essentially: 1)Ethanol-free gas and 2)a quality, metal gas can. However, if I were to focus on long-term, emergency "fuel", I really have just one word: Propane. It never goes bad.
Seems like there are quite a few benefits beyond the fuel longevity, too. It burns much cleaner, so your backyard isn't filling with smelly exhaust (not a big deal, but its a plus worth mentioning). Storing propane isn't smelly, or fraught with worry over forgetting about it and coming back to a can of varnish some years later. Propane is also a fuel that probably isn't going to be as hotly contested during an emergency. Folks will fight each other at the gas pump to fill up their cars or fill up gas cans, but there doesn't seem to be as bad of a rush on Propane during those times (not to say there isn't, but its not fist-fights-at-the-pump levels of bad).
On top of that, probably the best part, it won't turn to varnish in the generator, either! no need to worry about a clogged up, filthy carburetor. It's a prime fuel for a generator that may see only occasional use.
@@silver965 Absolutely! I have a natural gas generator at home (Gulf coast area), primarily because we typically never see any issue with our natural gas supply during times like hurricanes, etc. But the same goes for propane... if I didn't have natural gas, I'd have a large propane tank. It significantly reduces the worry of having a fuel supply that may not be good, or a generator that's varnished up from old gas.
@Montana West Photography Studio I agree with that. But I still advise that it does make sense to store the right fuels for certain items, especially for things like generators.
Propane can severely affect your engine. I just found this out in hurricane Ida. I got a batch with too much ethyl mercaptans in it and it damn near shut me down for good. I have a video out on it but look it up in the RVing forums. I will have a hard time trusting propane for emergencies.
@Montana West Photography Studio I certainly know that, my problem is you will never know you have a batch that can total shut you down until it's too late. I have a few videos showing this and it almost cost us dearly during Hurricane Ida. I will still store both, but using the small 20lb bottles is risky. In researching the issue, higher volume tanks don't seem to have a problem near as much. Look up oil in propane and you will see it can shut everything down. It will ruin regulators. Rv'er forums and BBQ pit forums discuss this problem. In my situation, running a generator after a natural disaster, this could have been catastrophic.
As an FYI, in October 2024, I just used gas I stored with Sta-Bil in March of 2020 (Covid). This was normal unleaded (Chevron) with ethanol. No problems in my Honda engine lawn mower (which is very susceptible to bad gas) or in my Subaru after I tested it in the mower. The Trufuel I stored at the same time also was no problem. Sta-Bil is really good stuff.
Hi! Any idea whether ethanol fuel with Stabil added can still separate out the water if allowed to sit long enough, or does the additive keeps the water from separating from the fuel? I got couple containers of 5 gallon gas that's about 3 years old, with Stabil added during the original fill up. I'd like to separate out the water from it and use it in a lawn mower.
I’m cleaning out an old metal WW-2 gas can 5 gallon off a jeep ,75 yrs old made in USA ,going to store fuel for winter 2023 for generators an car along with other fuel containers,you have to prepare for what ever comes your way nowadays!!!!!!
I have two 5 gal cans. When my car hits 1/2 tank i use one then refill it instead of the car. Next 1/2 tank use the other one. 12 gal tank in the car. This way the car is full and the gas in the cans stays fresh.
Do you ever worry about vapors accumulating in your vehicle. Is it safe to carry around the cans
I suggest you consider using Pri-G for gasoline storage and Pri-D for diesel storage. Pri-G in my gas cans allows me to store gas for 1 to 2 years without problems. Following Helene, I found a 5-gallon military gas can in the corner of my garage I had forgotten about that had been there for 3 years with non-ethanol gas stabilized with Pri-G. I hesitated in using it however was desperate. As I poured it into the generator and saw no issues with the gas at all. It was perfectly colored with no evidence of gumming or other problems. The generator ran without issue and continued to run for several more days until our power was restored. Of course all of the subsequent gas used in the generator also had Pri-G in it. I should state, with Stabil, I had some issues in the past with gumming. Since then, I’ve used Pri-G and Pri-D and have had no more storage problems. Just my personal experiences I thought I would share.
That's our preferred brand, too.
My brother and I took a couple 5 gal cans to my cabin in 1995. It was untreated. It was still good until just a few years ago. It's still not stale, but requires a bit more energy to get the mower fired up. As long as you don't open and close it all the time, it will stay good for a LONG time. I bought a kit online that will fix 6 cans for $30. It has everything you need for both threads, as well as new vent caps. These new cans aren't vented, so you'll need to drill a hole and cap it to work.
I used to buy gas tanks from auto salvage yards and resell them. Drove 1400 miles a week just for delivering, so I tried to salvage fuel from the tanks whenever possible. Some of it had sat for a LONG time.
I learned a pretty simple test to see i it was potent enough to run in my truck. If it was too far gone, Id get valve chatter.
Take a small bit of the questionable gas, pour it in a plastic cup, just enough to cover the bottom. Dip a long stick in the fuel and light the stick on fire. Away from the gas can, obviously. Touch the lit stick to the top of the cup. The vapors should give a nice healthy poof. If you have to just about put the stick in the cup to get it ignited, its roached.
You can use pretty weak fuel mixed with high octane to be able to use it in a pinch.
I was getting coffee at a fire-house when they informed me that test was underway on a dilapidated bus that I had bought which was within view at the time • Your test is correct • Smidgen of the fuel in discard able and see if it lights though that is 5 Decades old vehicle not what they are shipping today
Take the fuel and add rubbing alcohol to it at a 10% ratio. Then add it to stable gas. Keep gasoline in metal containers and keep them full. No room for condensation. Diesel doesn't separate like gas, but if it gets water in it, it screws up your filters
@@user-bd5md5cm2j Isn’t Rubbing alcohol partially water. She said alcohol added to fuel helps to bring it back to life but you’re also adding some water to it also with the alcohol I think that not gonna be good
@@planetmoving9180 alcohol gets rid of water. No water in alcohol 👍
@@user-bd5md5cm2j You should really research and learn before you make "do this, do that" videos. Yes there IS water in alcohol. there are different water to alcohol ratios you can buy but oh yeah it is in there. DUH!
I am 77 years old. Stored gasoline for decades and I have kept up with the regulations on fuel cans and fuel composition.
1. this old video is informative.
2. your gasoline will go bad. Whereas the formulation of gasoline has changed, you can cut the time in half, if you want to be on the safeside.
3. I used to keep notes. Now I don't. Definitely, I rotate at the cold winter football season time. I go at sunrise when the smokers are still sleeping and when nobody gets gas because they are going to stuff themselves watching a football game. I pull out the gas cans and put them outside at home, keep filling the car until the stored gasoline is used up, making sure the cans are clean and refill them asap and back into covered storage outoors. I then try to do it in the middle of the year. I fill the tank with the stored gasoline before a major trip and refill after the long trip. I can't do it exactly, but there is max of 30 potential gallons circulated.
4. I gave up on the concept of having enough gasoline and shifted long term energy storage to propane.
On the plastic jugs I drilled a hole and pushed in a yellow breather by the handle so when I tip up the can my thumb flicks it open and it drained in a about a minute buy 10 on line for a few bucks and they snap closed, when not in use cheep fix and no more gurgling and I cut the spring down so it would be easier to push the nozzle in but still sealed when not in use. Good luck gents!
I started using rubber valve stems for the vent. I just drill the hole at the top of the can near the back. I drop a cord with a lead split shot sinker into the hole. Shake it out the bung. Remove the valve core put the string through the stem thread end first re crimp sit shot to pull valvestem up through hole. Grab with pliers and pull it into place. Use a metal valve stem cap on it for transport and storage. Been doing it for years and have never had a leak.
Good video. I have used NATO cans for 20 years and cut foam rectangles (yoga/camping or car floor mat) and tape them to the can bottoms to stop damage to the paintwork when moving the cans about. That stops rust problems.
I watched this video a while back before I started storing gas. I bought a few of these metal cans and stored them outside the house but didn't figure in that that side of the house would have more sun later in the summer. I went over seas and came back to all of them bloated and out of shape. No leaks and the gas was still good after six months. Lesson learned. Keep out of the sun like the guy said. Great video.
You did I hell of a good job explaining all this I learned a lot thank you
I enjoyed learning and will be sharing your link in my video coming out today
Well done young man. Keep the good work, you got it going on.
Don't need fuel stabilizer. All you need is a COMPLETELY full can completely sealed off from air. It will last 2 or 3 years as long as there is no air in the can.
I agree. My 1.75 liters (about half of gallon) inside a vodka bottle, with an old style wood cork (kept with steel wire to don't pop up from neck) are doing just fine.
Great and well reasoned information on gas storage. I might also add, oxidation is really the only issue with aging fuel, so in my experience not Stabilizer is not needed if your Gas can is if fact air tight, limiting oxidation.
I personally have 300 gallons in storage at any one time, and I start to rotate it out at one year, with no performance issues.
Worthy of note: ethanol can be extracted from gasoline using water forcing phase separation removing all ethanol into the water. After that siphon off the fuel.
This process has revealed that there is only about 3% ethanol in pump gas, not 10%. As a maximum stated on the pump sticker.
Thought I’d share my experiences.
Be well everyone
Oxidation
@Stephan jackman thanks for sharing ,and may the force be with you 👍😉
How long are you giving the fuel to separate? If only an hour or so, your percentage reading is wrong. I've tested this using graduated laboratory containers and found that it takes days to separate the ethanol from the gasoline and it's always 10%........or more.
After siphoning, what do you do with the ethanol?
@@trustme7731 well we have different experiences I guess.
The Ethanol removed can be useful in different ways. 🤔🥃😎
@@stephenjackman6163 I asked 2 questions and you didn't answer either. I would like to know the answers.
Ok, what I used to measure ethanol removal is a suitable container and mark the before and after fluid levels. Further I use an appropriate amount of water with the gasoline, and vigorously agitate the mixture in a sealed container, and force the ethanol’s exposure to the water for complete absorption. I might repeat a few times until there is no more additional volume added to the water/ ethanol mixture level, after settling into a clear defined separation.
This process should only take an hour or so. I did not find waiting longer added anymore absorption, nor would I expect it.
I’m sure the ethanol percentage varies wildly, depending on the regional availability of ethanol. The pump gas decal reads a {maximum of 10%} there is no minimum standard, so any percentage is possible. I got about 3+%
I just dump the separated water and ethanol mix out on the ground, I don’t actually drink it 🥃 🫠
Anyway that’s my experience. I hope that is what you were looking for.
Here after crude oil price below $1.
humanity first try negative 34.
55 gallon drums here I come
Meanwhile in Calif, it's still $3.39 a gallon. No joke
the tax is usually half what the fuel costs,california is different i'll bet,we are 1.16 to 1.45 in mo right now,still too damn high
@Neil Carpenter :) me too. but my 2 bedroom house would buy a town in Michigan.
I remember the old Jerry cans. Also the old metal cans. Ok. I'm 66 yrs old . Thanks for the video.
I watch a lot of RUclips old vintage car rescue shows. They work on them to try to get them running after they've been sitting for 10 or even 20 years. What surprised me is that many of these old cars still had gasoline in the tank. The biggest surprise is, in many cases, that old gas would still run the engine! This tells me if you store gasoline and use a gasoline stabilizer, it should still be good usable gas for at least 10 years or longer. That's my thoughts on it!
My Honda 4000 watt generator runs fine and never used stabilizer and it is 1983 . Just add gas when it get"s low . Never ran the gas out . The gas tank has a very hefty cap and no oxygen gets in .
Always ran 93 octane .Starting to use stabilizer in my stored gas . Some one added stabil to very old gas that was no good and the stabilizer brought it back to life . Does any one know if that is possible ?
Why do you run 93 octane? Does your engine knock or ping?
@@stevesmith756 Tested 89 and 93 for mileage and performance . Vehicle gained 1.5 miles per gallon and the vehicle had noticeably better performance, also little or no ethanol that are bad for my small engines ( lawn mower , snow blower , generator ) . Store backup gas for power out and 93 was good after 14 months with no added stabilizer . Use stabil in my stored gas now and container says good for 2 years . Still try to rotate before 1 year .
Do not listen to the claims that you are wasting your money on 93 octane , tested that to be false for me . Need to do your own test to see if it works for you .
Thanks for all the links and info. Very to the point and practical. Due to all the issues (and they way worse here in CA), I am converting my generators to run on propane as it lasts forever.
Thank you for your very imformative video! I learned a lot. All the best from Argentina.
Thanks. Your video was the best I have seen on keeping fuel. I appreciate it and will pass it on. Keep up the good work brother.
Thanks!
I knew that was a NC accent. Thanks for this video. I'm draping a leg all over your channel my man!!
I store 15-20 gallons of treated gas in the shed with the mowers, tiller, etc. I treat the gas with Stabil the day I purchase it and tag the can with the date purchased & treated. I rotate through the stock, using the oldest first. I did have some "help" one year and the gas cans got out of sequence. Found myself using 2-year-old gas (treated, stored in a 90% full and tightly capped can) in the mowers and backpack blower Everything started and ran fine so a sealed container (reduced oxygen exposure) and Stabil can preserve gas at least 2 years.
Prep usage of stored gas is for a 1600 watt inverter generator, the backup to my small solar system. which is adequate for about 20 hours running fridge, internet, etc (drops to 8 hours when running the central heat). Without commercial power or enough sun, the inverter gen would use about 1 gallon/day to charge the battery bank to have power for 24 hours (gen time + battery time).
The solar system is primarily for short power outages ("Wait until daylight" so I'm not out in the dark in a thunderstorm or shoveling 7" of snow at 30F to get a gen started). Dropping back to a "cabin in the woods" level of power makes it viable for the long term, running a small fridge (4.4 cu ft counter height), some LED lighting over the kitchen counter, charging handie-talkies and cell phones (if that service is up). At this level, the inverter gen might use 1/2 gallon/day on the days there isn't adequate sun - it's all in the multi-page spreadsheet I created to do "What if", including the maximum and peak loads of various appliances and cells that turn red when the capacity of the batteries or the 2000 watt inverter are exceeded. Yes, it's possible to discharge the 420 amp hour battery bank in just a couple of hours but we will NOT be using the "1100 watt" .microwave oven which actually draws more than the 1700 watts on its label or the garage door opener (1200+ watts starting, 430 watts running) or the laser printer (495 watts printing) and so forth.
Solar power is ideal for some things, such as the lighting in the equipment shed. The $175 I spent to put together a "set and forget" solar-charged LED lighting system there was cheaper than tunneling under a concrete driveway to run AC power out there to have lights for 20 minutes a few times a week. The switch for those lights is a 60 minute windup timer so the lights can't be left on. A typical quick twist of the timer's knob gives about 20 minutes of light - more than adequate for getting things out of or back into the shed.
It's hard to run solar in a vehicle
@@ronaldtapp7299 Not always. Look up the "ELF" solar trike - battery + pedal power with a flexible solar panel as the roof.
Along with Stabil, I put couple ounces of Lucas fuel treatment.
As a fuels-refinery Scientist, I can detect few faults with your presentation.
Ethanol blended fuel is absolutely perfect to store long-term, if you have sealed containers.
Additives are a con, unless one is in Aerospace.
I chanced upon this video thinking that I could tear it apart. But most of it is accurate advice.
Fuel degrades for several reasons:
1) Gaseous vapour escape. Butane is a major component of petroleum, and can escape through the tiniest of interstices.
2) Chemical reactions caused by heat.
3) Gravimetrical separation.
4) Reaction with trapped H2O.
That's a surprise.
What about fuel stabilizer, is that useful?
And is an ordinary plastic fuel can "sealed," as long as the cap(s) are in place?
Any additional comments you'd want to make would be welcome.
What is your opinion on the political attacks on fossil fuels?
@@SeattlePioneer 1) Some fuel stabilizers *can* be useful in cases where correct storage is not possible, such as extreme heat. These cases are rare, and generally industrial, not domestic.
2) Plastic fuel containers are sub-optimal, in that they allow some UV radiation to pass to the fuel, contaminate the fuel with polymers, don't conduct static electricity, are easily punctured. But if the cap is tight on an intact seal, they don't vent under normal use.
3) Fossil fuels are a finite energy source and will be exhausted. Politics is not my area of expertise.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray
There are enormous amounts of fossil fuels around the world. Enormous. The issue is not running out of fossil fuel ---- the issue is turning it off.
An act of human beings, not nature.
@@SeattlePioneer It is a statement of fact. You dismiss this fact by the expedient of suggesting that the inevitable exhaustion will not occur until some time into the future. This position is neither rational, nor does it preclude planning for that eventual exhaustion.
I am beginning to grasp the reason that you hide behind a fake name.
Please use a real name in any future response, if you expect a civil adult reply from me.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray
We have been "running out" of fossil fuels for 200 years now and in the United States we have coal available for 600 years or so at current rates of consumption.
The ambition of environmentalists is to strangle the use of fossil fuels by human beings within a very few years, FAR before exhaustion is an issue.
I consider the idea that we are "running out" of fossil fuels to be ludicrous as a practical matter. The real issue is that environmentalists want to TURN OFF access to fossil fuels, and do that almost immediately.
As a practical matter, we have been "running out" of fossil fuels since they first began to be used, as you suggest. But we have been discovering new supplies of fossil fuels even faster than they are being used.
Awesome video, I appreciate you putting it together thanks.
100% able to store gas in true Gerry cans easily for 7 plus years using twice the dose of Sta-Bil. I label my Gerry cans with a red grease pencil on what the date was that I filled them. I have 37 of them and rotate the fuel. I keep the fuel obviously for emergencies but also use it for my mowers, chain saws, weed eaters, blowers and tiller. I just opened up and filled my zero turn and tiller on Thursday (5-14-21) using one dated November 2014. Everything runs perfectly. Now I probably wouldn’t try to fill a sports car with 7 year old gasoline. But you’re not going to be driving a Porsche when the shit hits either.
Do u have to shake Sable bill to mix?
I put 4oz of Sta-bil into the Gerry can. Then I fill the can. The fuel mixes it when you fill it. If I fill the can then put Sta-Bil in I shake it a few times. This only works (long term) when the can absolutely does not vent. True Metal Gerry cans don’t vent.
Thank you. You answered all my questions. Good video.
**My $2 (adjusted for inflation):* I have never had good performance from "sta-bil" brade fuel stabilizer... What I have found and personally used in gasoline to keep it good for multiple years is PRI-G (also use PRI-D for diesel). If you add it by the appropriate listed amount (or a bit more) at least once a year, it keeps gas in great quality and condition. It also boosts the octane levels as well. The older the gas gets... you may want to add a bit extra PRI-G each year to the gas to compensate for its age.
However, I also Never purchase "regular" gas which is *at least* 10% ethanol. This is doubly true for gas that is going to be stored for any length of time. I personally make sure to purchase premium gas at stations which point blank list that their premium contains **NO Ethanol.** As ethanol not only causes gas to go bad MUCH faster, it also helps to destroy small engine carbs and causes a list of other issues.
EDIT: HA! Got ahead of him! He brought up the Non-Ethanol. Great Job!
Don't know how long you are wanting to store your gasoline, but I've had regular gas with ethanol stored in Wavian jerry cans and treated with PRI-G for at least 2 years. I used up every bit of that gas last year when I decided it was probably time to cycle through the fuel and replace it with fresh. Ran perfectly fine with no noticeable difference in performance or economy in my Honda Civic. That gas was at least 2 years old. I have some stored similarly in a 10L jerry can for my lawnmower & weedeater gas. The remainder of that fuel is over 3 years old and my mower started with one pull and ran fine using that fuel this spring. So, at least with PRI-G treated fuel stored in sealed NATO cans you can use regular gas containing ethanol and not have to worry if you cycle through it every few years.
One of the biggest worries with ethanol gas is how readily it attracts water from the vapor in the air. That is why having cans with a real seal makes a big difference.
Adjusted for inflation????
Valueless fiat scammer funny-money has no value!!
@@ChiDraconis that's true, like my grandfather always said, its just "script". But still need it to buy what we are able while we can. at least until they implement the mark and also crash the markets/dollar.
@@jonniemactyler7929 that's also true about ethanol attracting water. The biggest problem I've had with ethanol fuel, is in weed eaters, chainsaws and a small honda generator. I've had to clean carbs on all of them multiple times, and even had to replace a carb on a chainsaw and I think a weed eater too, when I was using ethanol gas. Once I switched to non-ethanol fuel, haven't had another problem since. The ethanol just varnishes up the carbs really bad and really quickly. Especially when talking about how small the jets are in chainsaw and trimmer carbs. Just my experience.
On a mower or larger engine, I like to run the carb empty if its going to be sitting for a while. But their larger carbs can handle a bit more than what the smaller engines can, so ethanol probably would be "as bad" as it is on the smaller engines.
I keep five gas cans full and store them in a row and simply take from one end and add to the other as I use fuel. In my case, it usually doesn't get more than a year old. As an added level of protection, I add about an ounce of 2-cycle oil to the mix, (5-6 gallon can) along with Stabil. A friend who works in the 2-cycle oil industry told me this is one of the best methods of extending gasoline life and doesn't hurt the engine one bit.
I have the Scepter cans. I always fill to the top and add stabilizer before storing. I usually cycle the gas regularly but I recently discovered one I missed. The gas inside is 4 years old. I opened it and it smelled just fine. Filled up my lawn mower and it fired on the first pull. I probably won't use it in my vehicle, but if it was an emergency I wouldn't hesitate, especially if I was adding it to a partial tank of fresh gas.
The Jerry Can. In WW2 the Brits moved thousands of gallons of gasoline in 5 gal honey cans. The same thin steel that soup cans are made from. They dented, leaked and had a one inch diameter screw top. The Germans used a robust style container, hence the name.
that was a great video. true jerry cans are expensive; sometimes you do have to bite the bullet and spend to save. it is a long term fuel issue described very well. hate those new gas holders nozzels.
Label all of your stored gas: date / additive / ethanol / non-ethanol / octane ; this is just an index card with a ziptie on it. rotate your stock every one to three years. gas in metal will keep a long long time, you will find that out.
Those are some really excellent tips but I want to tell you a little story and I don't mean a lie. I put a 5-gallon can up under my house and forgot about it for 3 years I didn't use any stabil in it or any kind of stabilizer. One day I decided to look under this particular part of the house and lo and behold there was that 5 gallons of gas so I went ahead and used it and it was good there was nothing wrong with it I guess I was lucky but I promise you it was three years before I used it
I believe you. I've used gas out of cans that I know was over 2 years old, and it worked fine. I think keeping the can in a dark, dry area is what helps it stay fresh enough to use for a long long time. Now, I am speaking of non ethanol gas. Ethanol will not last a year, let alone three.
Your right on the money with the advice. Thank you my friend.
I’ve got 16 real NATO gas cans I keep on rotation I bought some years ago. They are almost impossible to find now and if you do they are insanely expensive. Great video!
Awesome Becky. Really cool!
I just sat through a 12 minute fuel tank commercial.
You had 12 minutes to jump off
I bought a shrink wrapped bundle of
"safety cans" . They had the 15lb thumb spring on the nozzle and one grab handle at the very top. No freaking way to tilt 5 gallons of gas up and hold in place while it glugs out.
Started with a dremel and cut off all the little flaps that keep you from un screwing the nozzle.
Drilled a small hole in the handle at the top back of each can and screwed a short, fat, gnarly wood screw to plug the hole when not in use.
Finally, on one nozzle only, I pushed down the thumb button and ran a big screw beside the button to jam it in place. This is my pouring spout.
All the nozzles have a screw on yellow cap.
Thank you for this video Sir!
Ive never seen the "Super siphon" before, thanks for showing it.
FINALLY, a video about gas storage that has correct info! So much bad info out there... Gas storage is 100% about a fully sealed container that doesn’t leak/vent. That solves all safety and long term storage issues with integrity of the fuel.
I've also heard that plastic containers leech octane from the fuel over time.
I'd like a source for that, please.
Octane is a rating, not an additive that can leech out.
What does leech out is the gas itself, or rather it evaporates out, through the plastic itself, not just through a poor seal at the cap.
You'll notice the level of your gas decrease over months. If you paint a plastic gas can the paint will gradually bubble and rub off as the gas fumes migrate out through micropores in the plastic, removing the paint.
Metal is the way to go.
So these Jericans won't vent vapor? I live in an apartment with a garage (no shed), so basically I would need to store it in the garage which is obviously not safe if vapor gets out.
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What about for Diesel? I don't think that will evaporate out. I have a yellow plastic nato shaped can i use for my machine... thinking that is best for diesel (but not gas) The fuel tank on the machine is plastic itself, so that must be preferred ~
EZ Flow nozzles came yesterday. So happy to find them. Hate CA regs..Spilling gas everywhere. Thanks for your efforts.
Bonus tip: Durning "good times" I rotate my gas out every two months. Pour it into your vehicle. That way ya always have that extra life during SHTF. Always fill cans with highest octane.
@no candy yeah, I buy shell. My father in law works for them. We don't have that problem in Canada
@no candy so do i need to put fuel stablizer in Rec fuel or ethanol free fuel from local gas station? i asked this questin the other day and noone knew the answer
@@tusharin1984 stabilizer will keep it good for a yr. Even still, I always rotate my gas out every 3 months
You are a truly full service advisor, thanks GadBless you
I have these NATO cans too. The only downfalls are that the rubber gaskets wear out over time and that nozzle tip falls apart. Replace it with a flexible nozzle, it's made out of metal.
One can cut a rubber gasket out of used bicycle inner tubing,if gaskets are not available.
I saw 10x packs of NATO jerry can gaskets on * recently when looking for spout. I suspect gasoline wears down the gaskets quicker or is it because of mechanical pressure? They lock tight.
@@pavel9652 It's the lid crushing them. I will have to look for replacements too.
Lol - I’ve been using the same 10% ethanol stored in a plastic container in my lawn mower for three years. No issues yet!
We've got 5 cars on the farm that don't run. All of them at least half full
Hardest part is keeping it stable
StaBil... i'd recommend siphoning gas from those tanks and putting them in cans to be treated
Great video! I am using plastic cans, Eagle I believe, and storing them in my shed. When I transport them in the trunk of my car, I always bungie them together to keep them from falling over. The first thing I did with the cans was convert them to "old style" by adding vent caps and nozzles that actually work. I'll check into the steel cans, but cost may be an issue for me. Thanks again for the great infof!
During this low price gas days , I am using the fuel in my cans to top up then refilling with CHEVRON PREMIUM . It has no ethanol in it, allowing a longer shelf life. As the price for it is less than what i was paying for reg 2 weeks ago, I dont mind. Bonus as it also rotates the stocks on hand.
How do you know there is no ethanol in the Chevron Premium?
@@glockpoppin If Chevron Premium is the same as Chevron 94, then it has no ethanol.
Great tips. I plan to revise my strategy for holding gas
Those cans are getting really hard to find now online
Important for storage:
1. If you can get ethanol free gas, get it! It's more costly but it won't self-destruct.
2. Rotate your stock.
3. Ethanol Shield is a lot better than Stab-il
I was planning on storing mine next to an open flame. Sure glad you said something.
Bahahaha. Next to fire?? Really??
@@dandahermitseals5582 Ever heard of sarcasm?
@@danielbridgewater3444 That will keep it and the air around it real dry. 😅
Thanks
To avoid the air suction problem, I drilled a small hole in the handle of my red plastic gas can at the high point when pouring out the gas. I use a golf tee to plug the hole when in storage. Works Safley for me.
same, but I use small corks
That non ethanol gas website was worth the price of admission.
Buy a universal electric gas pump. Add a long wires with alligator clips (to a 12 V battery) , a switch and about 6 to 8 ft of fuel line. Zip tie the pump to you gas can handle. Now you don’t need to pour the fuel out of your gas can. you pump it.
You can also connect to the pos/ neg cables on a jump box too. That way you don't need a real long run of wire. Just make sure you connect to the side of the clamp that is connected to the wire. I do this to drain out my bird baths when I need to clean them. And fill my riding mower. I just bought a cheap 12 volt automotive fuel pump from e-bay and some 3/8 fuel line. Works great.
good presentation, informative,at 74 learned a lot want gerry cans for christmas
Here in Montana the radical temp changes will always cause condensation. Storing fuel is difficult.
Best way to minimize condensation is to eliminate as much air space in the tank as possible. Aviators have tried to keep tanks full for this reason, when aircraft sit around. Constant temp helps too, but if fully sealed, moisture can only be derived from the air space left in the tank.
Cheers
Thanks mate,good advice will take it.
A friend of mine left the country for two years so I put a whole bottle of Sta-Bil in the tank of his truck. When he got home we jumped the battery and it ran great.
Having been a USFS fire prevention technician and fire fighter it is fun to read all the expert statements from the self-appointed safety specialist .
Did you know that, no I wouldn't tell that☆! someone heard will try it and start a fire ! Whiskey is another extremely flammable liquid that infact can catch fire by exposing the vapors to a ignition source.
I literally lost my mind with the saftey nozzle things
Try filling a tractor with a 5 gallon can and one of those “safety valve” nozzles. Hint: filler cap is at chest height and how the f^k are you supposed to hold the can up while holding the nozzle open? I spilled more diesel the first time with new can than ever with old flexible spout.
I am a contractor and do alot landscaping. So I use alot fuel. Sometimes I think I am gonna loose it lol
Excellent video, I have several of the cheap red plastic 5 gal cans. I am going to change them out. It'll a little expensive, but I never mind paying extra as long as I get what I'm paying for. I subscribed and hit the like button.
How about diesel?
I’ve been storing gasoline in those NATO style cans for years. I’ve had it in storage for up to four years or longer with no detriment. It runs fine in my automobiles in my lawn equipment.
Store 4 x 20 liter jerry cans fuel. Prices increase, use fuel from cans. Prices drop, refill. Prices increase/decrease by up 50 cents per liter every few days. 🇦🇺
interesting life you're going to have spending half ur day filling and unfilling.
If you are looking into long term storage issues, may want to consider a diesel generator with propane option.
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Sea Foam doesn't have a great reputation for clearly marketing realistic expectations to the customer. I wouldn't want to use any Sea Foam product without being very well advised of its true capabilities, relative to how it is being marketed.
So what are the true product Capabilities?
Go to a small airport and stop at a Fixed Base Operator (FBO) and buy Avgas is 100LL. It will last more than a year in storage with no treatment, and is wonderful for small engines like your generator. I used it to winterize all my small engines, by simply running my lawn mower, etc. on Avgas for the last time before storage, because the 100LL will not deteriorate the carburetor diaphragms or clog the jets, and lasts for the whole off season of non use. Spring startups are simple!
It’s now November 2021 and those “ez-pour” replacement nozzles have been taken of Tractor Supply store shelves…replaced by a similar-looking “safety” nozzle,…which sucks again.
What do you call 500 lawyers and accountants at the bottom of the ocean?
A good start
A good start.
Good job SIR,to explain, thank you.....
And that’s why I use diesel.
You have a diesel string trimmer? That’s really cool.
FYI I use cheap rubber chair leg cap sliders at walmart or the dollar store to cap my gas cans. I use them on my gas cans and diesel cans and they work very well to seal my cans
Dead on, it works and I use them on my plastic cans. This guy just wants to tout the ridiculously xpensive jerry cans. (probably getting paid to promote them)
I have 200 liters of fuel storage. I have four Sceptre plastic cans and 6 others. Generally a similar design. I use fuel stabilizer and tag each can of the date, price and location to wear I purchased the fuel. I also include the liters (amount) that pump indicates. Depending on the temperature of the air and ground, the fuel may contract or expand. When you fill the can, don't watch the pump for the amount of fuel pumped. Watch the fill line on the can. The pump may read 20 liters but you may have as little as 16 liters. The pump is designed to compensate for this variance, however , I find it inaccurate. Fuel pumps should have decal on it explaining this temperature variance. So, I mark the liters that I purchased at the pump. I generally will leave the fuel stored untouched. The oldest fuel I had was 2 years. What I have stated doing is rotating one can out whenever I need to fill. As I usually will have no less than a half tank of fuel in the vehicle, I empty one can into the vehicle. I then go fill the can and the vehicle at the same time. I mark the can and put it back into storage. This keeps a fairly fresh fuel supply at anyone time, and doesn't really ad the extra costs of but a large amount of fuel at one time. If you choose to use this method, remember to put stabilizer in the can immediately after you pour the van into your vehicle. All of my fuel card are vented as we have big temperature swings here. I wouldn't suggest storing any fuel in a vehicle long term or indoors.
Here is question. What is the difference between regular fuel stabilizer and marine fuel stabilizer? I also notice a descrepency between the same product in Canada vs USA. Same product but one indicates a much longer storage period. I have some Briggs and Stratton stabilizer that indicates 3 years.
Just joking (sorta) but I'd suppose both are the same but the marine fuel stabilizer costs twice as much!
@@SeattlePioneer Not So.I contacted the mfg that stated their very dark almost black looking marine grade stabil is a different more robust formula (vs std red color stabil) that’s specifically designed to better handle the extreme heat temp swings & high moisture storage conditions many boats see that std formulation red stabil fuel stabilizer cant handle as well.
That’s why I always use sta-bil marine grade stabilizer in their old rec of 1oz marine grade stabil for every 5gals fuel vs their current rec of 1oz per 10gals that in my experience is at best an in season maint dose rec that’s not as good /strong enough for long term Storrage esp with 20% ethanol on the fuel.
I live in upstate ny & have had no fuel related issues for the 20+ yrs doing the above in the mult classic motorcycles,cars & small engine power equipment I have.
Happy Motoring.
I got some genuine NATO Wavian gas cans a few years ago and they all came with the Kalifornia CARB compliant nozzle. A real pain in the ass trying to fill small power equipment having to manually push back the spring loaded lock out nozzle so gas can flow!!!
The siphon tube is a great idea to fill vehicles from a gas can!!!
Me, a city guy that has no need to store gasoline.
"Hmm, interesting where can I get low ethanol gasoline?"
You're overestimating your situation. You may not be as likely to need to store gas, but you absolutely should have at least one can on hand.
Marine gasoline
Answered all my questions. Thanks
Dont store gas in your dwelling. Always store it in an out building .
Yep, make sure you detach your garage and slide it 20 feet from your house, cars included.
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Concrete garage twenty foot distant with concussion reducing barrier between it and where you sleep;
Test the intervening distance with large propane torch;
Insure all idiot-clowns are busy sniffing whatever it is they do somewhere else;
You tan't seen do-do until you see an LNG Vehicle explosion
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Familiar with use of EMS arterial clamp?
I had a Wavian 5 gallon mounted in the back of my truck bed under cover. Used some fuel from it and did not refill it full. After winter (interior Alaska) this spring the can leaked about 2/3 up from the bottom from a small hole. Because of the temperature difference from summer to winter the expansion and contraction cracked the metal and leaked. Range of temperature was about -45F to 85F. I replaced it and will now keep it filled.
Excellent tutorial, especially the coverage of authentic Jerry cans, and fuel.
For long term storage remove the alcohol from the gas first. It isn't difficult and there are a lot of youtube videos showing you how to do it.
Ethanol free gas. There's websites that list stations that sell it. If you live in a state where it isn't sold(for example, New Jersey), Marine gasoline is frequently ethanol free. Another option is race gas, but the cost and extremely high octane make it a less than ideal choice.
We don’t have ethanol free in my province, premium fuel usually has less though.
I've stored pump gas with 10% ethanol for well over 1 year. I dosed the gas with 3 times the required amount of stabil.
Those cheap ass plastic cans are "approved" by the government for gas storage but heavy duty racing dump cans that don't leak or spill when you use them aren't. So glad the government is working so diligently "keeping us safe."
Outstanding info. Making changes to my setup accordingly. Subscribed. Forwarded video to family. Thanks much!
Glad to help! Thanks for watching!
You haven’t been able to buy those Spectre gas cans in the US for years. Thank you California... NOT.
Where I live, it is illegal to have more than one gallon of gasoline on your property. They didn't really think this out, because it would mean that you have to park your car in the street. Still, a few 20L jerry cans of gas wouldn't last you very long anyway. Relying on gas to survive any kind of long-term situation is futile.
Research the difference between Lawful and Legal. Research UCC 1-308 All rights reserved. If it YOUR property why is it their business?
Thorough explanation. Thank you! > So, is it safe to store gas in the garage with the hot Texas weather? ?
Great simple lesson
I refuse to believe this guy only has 11k subs. *insert conspiracy theories* Great stuff man. Thanks SUB'd
I have plenty of time with CT;
Eager to take questions;
Simplified we do not bother with that we just find what we can as those are pay-for-lies @ a rate approaching rates you would not believe me if I told you *• Crime Pays •*
An internally controlled cartel which keeps tight → Do not even think of penetrating them !!!!